CHASE

[YinYang]

I can safely say that Hubba and Stuck Through Warrior are not me. Best deaths fan is the only one I use and yes I was Chase but I am now after this message, leaving for good once and for all. I only had three names here, not dozens. Hubba and Stuck Through are the same person however. He is 22 and he is dealing with trying to end this fetish too in his life and failing. After this message, I will be gone for good. I do not want any trouble. I want to put this all behind me, fetish, trouble I've caused here for others and all of it. I can say that I have not posted much here under this name and when I did I was not happy when I did with the results. I want nothing to do with this group, this site, and this fetish any longer. I can say that there is a lot of misinformation going around and that Hubba is not me nor do I have dozens of profiles here at all. Just had three, Stabano, Chase and this one. Again, I hold nothing against anyone bare no grudges and want no trouble. I just want to leave and be forgotten, I think the other person that is here is Stuck Through and Hubba and he was probably someone else too but not sure. He is n the military and trying to fight this fetish with religion. He is not me. I do not post here, just observe but that will stop right now. IF anyone knows HOW I can "leave" group let me know. I can't find the button to do that but I will when I find it.  Apparently, one cannot leave a group if it is their primary group. Only an admin can do that and I've emailed and messaged the admin to do that.

Chase, I also know of another of your oldest profiles that being GThomid… again being easily verified by B&D. So your statement is one of further lies. The many others can be used until the truth is finally out if you persist.

But please listen and understand, I really am not out to persecute you my once friend. I just want you to stop abusing members of this board and the board itself. You had a lot of positive input here in the past and really deserved to have a better reputation. But you let your demons destroy it for yourself and others. Remember Chase …YIN YANG…remember? Find a better way, just like the rest of us you need an outlet but it has to be respectful to everyone else.

[XMalcolmX]

I can safely say that Hubba and Stuck Through Warrior are not me. Best deaths fan is the only one I use and yes I was Chase but I am now after this message, leaving for good once and for all. I only had three names here, not dozens. Hubba and Stuck Through are the same person however. He is 22 and he is dealing with trying to end this fetish too in his life and failing. After this message, I will be gone for good. I do not want any trouble. I want to put this all behind me, fetish, trouble I've caused here for others and all of it. I can say that I have not posted much here under this name and when I did I was not happy when I did with the results. I want nothing to do with this group, this site, and this fetish any longer. I can say that there is a lot of misinformation going around and that Hubba is not me nor do I have dozens of profiles here at all. Just had three, Stabano, Chase and this one. Again, I hold nothing against anyone bare no grudges and want no trouble. I just want to leave and be forgotten, I think the other person that is here is Stuck Through and Hubba and he was probably someone else too but not sure. He is n the military and trying to fight this fetish with religion. He is not me. I do not post here, just observe but that will stop right now. IF anyone knows HOW I can "leave" group let me know. I can't find the button to do that but I will when I find it.  Apparently, one cannot leave a group if it is their primary group. Only an admin can do that and I've emailed and messaged the admin to do that.

Chase, I also know of another of your oldest profiles that being GThomid… again being easily verified by B&D. So your statement is one of further lies. The many others can be used until the truth is finally out if you persist.

But please listen and understand, I really am not out to persecute you my once friend. I just want you to stop abusing members of this board and the board itself. You had a lot of positive input here in the past and really deserved to have a better reputation. But you let your demons destroy it for yourself and others. Remember Chase …YIN YANG…remember? Find a better way, just like the rest of us you need an outlet but it has to be respectful to everyone else.

I am reasonably sure he is also on ChatFighters with several aliases (all of which list underage as an interest)  He then periodically deletes them ... one of them was in fact named Wyatt ... I think the most recent iteration is Lincoln.   He's in a west coast time zone.

Hubba/StuckThroughWarrior is not Chase, but he is on Chatfighter with those names. I have spoken to him in the past and he mentioned that site and how he has spent a lot of time there and Wyatt, Lincoln, and a few other names I can't recall are the names he likes to cycle through and then he deletes them when he is killed in combat supposedly. That one is more understandable as many people on Chatfighters have multiple characters. The fact Chatfighters allows the underage tag as a whole is pretty questionable, but that is neither here nor there I suppose.

I do feel bad for Hubba/StuckThrough, aside from his underage interests, he hasn't attacked/belittled any members of this community like Chase has, at least as far as I know. From my interactions with him, what Chase said above is accurate and that person is dealing with their own feelings of shame and guilt regarding the fetish but keeps coming back time and time again, but now he's accidentally gotten himself involved in the Chase drama. Hopefully in time he is able to accept himself in regards to liking this stuff as you can repress, but getting rid of a fetish is hard if not impossible.

[YinYang]

@ Caeden150 & XmalcolmX 

This is Arenafighter News and Notices dealing with issues directly affecting members and this board. It is not a forum to be used as a witch hunt. This is not a place to speculate about whoever may or not be on another forum and certainly not, under any circumstances, to pry into where an individual may be living.

I feel ashamed that my board specific concern is degenerating into what really does seem to be a persecution of someone clearly struggling with their reliance on this fetish. Despite other accusations there is no evidence that this individual is a danger to anyone other than himself. 

My recent post about him was only to act as a warning to other Arenafighter members not to be taken in by Chase’s routine tendency to delude. His MO has always been a variation of the same, frequently ending up being deleted. There were sufficient clues in the profile I highlighted to show, on the balance of probabilities, that it was yet again Chase. Not long ago I reported a very similar new profile to the administrator and that profile was removed. As I said, based on IP addresses, it can easily be verified…if there is a will to do so.

As far as I’m concerned Chase can come back as long as he doesn’t abuse the board or it’s members. It does seem that he is no longer using any of his multiple profiles to actively abuse anyone. I think he stopped after I stopped being a contributing member. 

I won’t be responding on here again, I just didn’t like the way things were going.


Update: I am just aware that B&D was on-line some 5 hours earlier. It would follow that he would have been obligated to have removed my earlier post if it had incorrectly identified another individual.

[XMalcolmX]

Update: I am just aware that B&D was on-line some 5 hours earlier. It would follow that he would have been obligated to have removed my earlier post if it had incorrectly identified another individual.

I could be reading your update wrong, but if you are saying that if your accusation was wrong then B&D would have removed your post, then I believe you are vastly overestimating what B&D feels obligated to do and not do. While he does his role in paying to keep the board open as well as his admin duties on blocking spam accounts and things like that which shouldn't be underestimated as that is a lot of work, especially on this board with the user interface is quite archaic; he is obviously very hands off and posts once every few months. Who knows if he even really looks into these threads on a regular basis without being specifically contacted in a private message. There have been many post in the past that should have been removed, namely by the one this thread is named after and to the best of my knowledge B&D never intervened once until the somewhat large incident where he was personally contacted. Outside of obvious spam posts, don't think he moderates posts in that way. Not that I blame him, I'm sure he has much better things to do than chase (no pun intended) down the IP address of every single user on here to verify if people are using duplicate accounts.

[caeden150]

My apologies .. that certainly wasn't my intent but I can see where I may have overstepped. I have deleted my responses but cannot delete the ones that are part of a thread. Again, my apologies.

[XMalcolmX]

Just putting a response here as you'll likely see it. Saw you sent me a PM, not sure if you were expecting a response as it was a bit vague, but your private messages are turned off so I can't respond anyway.

[BattlesandDeaths]

Greetings fellow warriors,

I finally got caught up on this thread.  And much of what XMalcolmX stated is accurate.  I do not have enough time to review and respond to every post, thread, or comment.  So, I do rely on private messages about issues.  That being said, I also get some petty complaints ranging from "no one responded to my post,  I don't like girl-killing-guys deaths, this person uses too much blood in their pictures, I commented on someone's post and they didn't respond, etc, etc etc.... 

Personal squabbles between individual members are not a concern for me.  Those will happen in any forum.  We will not always agree on our likes and dislikes.  Someone saying they didn't like your post isn't always a personal attack.  I don't like every story, pic and video on here.  (Though, I, personally, would never say anything disparaging to the creators.)  I am confident that some people don't like all of my stories or artwork.  If someone told me one of my pictures or stories was crap, I really wouldn't care. If it truly was crap, I might re-edit it.  If not, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

What I will censor is blatant threats, illegal (namely underage) material, and anything disparaging about the community as a whole.  In all of those cases, I will notify the author of what was censored and why.  I will admit that this doesn't happen often, but it does on occasion.  (One great example is when someone posted about a comic book site that depicts "schoolboys" being eaten by goblins, monsters, etc.  While the site did have some entertainment value, it was not appropriate for this forum as its subject matter was clearly underage boys. I informed the person who posted it and deleted the thread.  That was the end of it. That person is still a member and still posts in the forum.)

As for the whole Chase situation...  Let me be clear, I banned his account because he requested it.  He had gone on a tirade berating this fetish and all of us on here.  Several other members got into a back-and-forth with him.  He contacted me and asked to be banned (as he thought somehow that would stop him from being tempted by this fetish.)  Others had also asked for his banishment, but it was his request that sealed the fate of his first account.

Did he come back?  Yes.  This doesn't surprise me as I have worked with people with these types of issues before.  (It's called relapse.)  He asked me to ban him again in his new account and I refused.  I told him I had done that for him before, yet here he came back again and that the only one who could keep him off of this forum is he himself.

My advice for CHASE, when he reads this is simple.  When you are here, If you feel like you shouldn't be indulging in this fetish, all you need to do is close your browser or go to another site.

I could set up some complicated registration system that involves me screening everyone who wants to join, but that would be onerous of both the potential member and for myself. Sure, we have to tolerate the occasional russian bot posting crap, but that is better than shutting out potential new members.  (And a big THANK YOU to all of the moderators who help clean out those russian bastards.)  Plus, as XMalcolmX pointed out the administration system on this site is archaic and difficult to navigate.  Is there a better or more suitable registration system on here? maybe, but I have yet to find it.

So, Lets quit chasing the Chase ghosts.  You can block him in your PMs.  Anything obnoxious in the threads can be deleted.  We don't need to be like some religion that excommunicates "bad" members. (Except russian bots, they can burn for all eternity.)

As for everything else.  I hope you all are enjoying the forum.  I would like to extend my appreciation to those long-term members that have endured the struggle and even those who showed support for me as an administrator. 

I am grateful to all who contribute. I, like most of you wish there would be more contributions.  I was actually thinking about making tutorials on how to edit pictures or use DAZ to create images, to teach newcomers how to get more involved, but unfortunately, I lack the time (and talent) to do this.

Any ideas on how to get members more involved in creation, please leave suggestions.

Also, I do have correct XMalcolmX on one thing.  (Not a biggie, though).  I do not pay for, nor do I own this forum.  There is a member who set up this forum and contacted me and asked me to be the main administrator as he had never created a site like this before.  He does wish to remain anonymous, but he is the real reason we have this forum. He is the one that we all owe our deepest gratitude to.  So, to him, I leave a big "Thank you".

[gyno9001]

Fantastic detailed explanation B&D, and kudos to you and the anonymous benefactor of the forum. Together as a team you provide a place for expression of an interest or compelling compunction for a lot of people. Your openness to all is as refreshing as it is rare.